[UK][7.4] Tibiantis Online

[kay]

i beg you, make 8.0 tibiantislike

won't happen, sorry

 

[oldschoolwizard]

won't happen, sorry

What are your thoughts on a non pvp server? It won't directly compete with existing tibiantis the same way a brand new pvp server would atleast.
A ton of people would most certanly try out a server like that and maybe switch between that and current one when things get too abusive/harsh on the existing one or just to change community. Or just prefer playing without PVP completely.

 

[snobs]

What are your thoughts on a non pvp server? It won't directly compete with existing tibiantis the same way a brand new pvp server would atleast.
A ton of people would most certanly try out a server like that and maybe switch between that and current one when things get too abusive/harsh on the existing one or just to change community. Or just prefer playing without PVP completely.

I have been a big fan of a non-pvp myself, but over the years i've learned that this might not be the best option in 7.4. Ppl doesnt respect eachother in non-pvp because there are no consequences. Spawns getting overruned by random "yolo" "i dont give a ****" players - meaning no respect to a letter system. Also you 100% need to make lootbags in 7.4 and those get stolen with ease.. and again with no consequences. There are a ton of ppl who get satisfaction of ruining other ppl gaming experience in non-pvp.
I know that all the stuff I mentioned can be done in pvp also but its kinda different, I hope you understand.

You have to have strong mentality to deal with that stuff. Better learn to deal with pvp.

Its just my point of view, being on ur side of view for 20 years.

 

[Caudeus]

I have been a big fan of a non-pvp myself, but over the years i've learned that this might not be the best option in 7.4. Ppl doesnt respect eachother in non-pvp because there are no consequences. Spawns getting overruned by random "yolo" "i dont give a ****" players - meaning no respect to a letter system. Also you 100% need to make lootbags in 7.4 and those get stolen with ease.. and again with no consequences. There are a ton of ppl who get satisfaction of ruining other ppl gaming experience in non-pvp.
I know that all the stuff I mentioned can be done in pvp also but its kinda different, I hope you understand.

You have to have strong mentality to deal with that stuff. Better learn to deal with pvp.

Its just my point of view, being on ur side of view for 20 years.

I agree with what you're saying. Sadly, it's a community issue within the game that hasn't evolved over the years. There are fewer people interested in enjoying and reminiscing about old childhood times, while more players seem focused solely on ruining others' experiences. I understand it goes beyond rules and the game itself. The focus is on why and the personal motives behind ruining others' experiences. This seems to be a widespread issue across all servers.

That being said, I believe a No-PvP server should adapt to the current context, catering to players who simply want to enjoy the game without interference. This would require modifying regulations exclusively for such a server, supporting the interests of this 'minority' community. However, I understand it may not be feasible due to the effort required to consistently enforce these regulations. Tibiantis's tool for saving CAMS could greatly assist the staff in detecting any infractions.


Best regards,

 

[oldschoolwizard]

I have been a big fan of a non-pvp myself, but over the years i've learned that this might not be the best option in 7.4. Ppl doesnt respect eachother in non-pvp because there are no consequences. Spawns getting overruned by random "yolo" "i dont give a ****" players - meaning no respect to a letter system. Also you 100% need to make lootbags in 7.4 and those get stolen with ease.. and again with no consequences. There are a ton of ppl who get satisfaction of ruining other ppl gaming experience in non-pvp.
I know that all the stuff I mentioned can be done in pvp also but its kinda different, I hope you understand.

You have to have strong mentality to deal with that stuff. Better learn to deal with pvp.

Its just my point of view, being on ur side of view for 20 years.

Yeah, that's why you need to hide your lootbag behind trees when it reaches a certain OZ or scatter it in multiple locations in the spawn or just simply do whatever you feel is neccesary to get it back with you somehow really

Toxic behaviour, getting your lootbags stolen and kicked / killed from spawn is something that is already happening in the PVP server, even by dominando. The difference is on the PVP server a lvl 200 MS can come and hold the UE button on a 60 EK and demand 100k / month forexample.

Ofcourse you are right, not being able to kill someone stealing your loot sucks but not being able to get killed by players at all and lose tons of experience and hours of grinding kinda balances that out. That's the charm with NON PVP imo

 

[Ezzz]

@kay How did you guys handled the player indexes ? I mean, CIP preloads 10k character IDs and their names on boot and the time threshold depends on the query manager, but I noticed that in Tibiantis I could VIP and parcel players that have not logged in since 2022 even, so that looks like a lot of player indexes and memory usage in general. So my question is, how was this changed in Tibiantis? No querymanager but raw SQL requests or indeed indexing all players?

 

[kay]

@kay How did you guys handled the player indexes ? I mean, CIP preloads 10k character IDs and their names on boot and the time threshold depends on the query manager, but I noticed that in Tibiantis I could VIP and parcel players that have not logged in since 2022 even, so that looks like a lot of player indexes and memory usage in general. So my question is, how was this changed in Tibiantis? No querymanager but raw SQL requests or indeed indexing all players?

Cip loaded all the ids and names. 10k is just one part, not the limit, and it only depends on the querymanager how many it's going to send, not the game server. It's not taking memory since it's just names and ids, while all the character's data is read from .usr upon first login (and later cached). You can send parcels to any character, unless it has just been created (after the most recent server save) and hasn't logged in yet.

 

[Ezzz]

Cip loaded all the ids and names. 10k is just one part, not the limit, and it only depends on the querymanager how many it's going to send, not the game server. It's not taking memory since it's just names and ids, while all the character's data is read from .usr upon first login (and later cached). You can send parcels to any character, unless it has just been created (after the most recent server save) and hasn't logged in yet.

Indeed, I see that the public QueryManager is indeed: wrong, and the index player code in CIP has a minimum character ID that is increased to the last player 9999 and by 1, this makes sense to indexing every player in that game world.

 

[kay]

Dear Players,

As most of you probably know, Tibiantis has been a target of many DDoS attacks lately. We do not understand the motivation behind this, yet we do know one thing—there will always be those who are bothered by the fact that others can take joy and pleasure in playing a game. Those who scorn the fact that it has already been 4 years since the first players logged in and set foot in the Rookgaard temple. We do not know the identity of the attacker, but the world of Tibiantis knows an archetype of the likes of them—the demon goblin Retah the Buzzkill! So, as part of the anniversary celebrations, the time has come to once again show Retah his place! Please be invited to the anniversary event and join us to brave the lags, freezes, wrongfully banned brothers, and other plagues that beset the world of Tibiantis.

The event will start on 16 May at 20:00 CEST (11 hours after server save) in Thais and—following the tradition set by the past four years—will be concluded with a party at Frodo's, where the most valiant champions will be rewarded with honour, glory, and gifts from the gods presented by the esteemed and reputable Christopher Tibis.

Your Tibiantis Online Team​

 

[hdkr]

Hi, do you have any plans on releasing a new server, maybe hosted somewhere else?
Having over 230ms ping is kinda rough, haha.

 

[kay]

Hi, do you have any plans on releasing a new server, maybe hosted somewhere else?
Having over 230ms ping is kinda rough, haha.

We're not going to open a new world in America anytime soon. Some day, maybe yes, but not in the nearest future. Sorry.

 

[Settra]

It's really tough to play Tibiantis in Brazil, mainly due to lag and high premium cost.
Just for comparison: FFXIV's sub would cost me R$33. Tibiantis premium costs me over R$50 today. Kinda ludicrous when put into perspective.
Anyway, I don't see any other options with a store that's not filled with pay to advance shit anywhere, so Tibiantis it is.

 

[Bloodbringer]

We're not going to open a new world in America anytime soon. Some day, maybe yes, but not in the nearest future. Sorry.

I wonder why do you think thats a good decision. Server in America is undoubtedly the better choice if you want to have more people online, it will give a 'decent' ping to pretty much all regions that play OT (europe, brazil, na) so its playable to all instead of just one region

 

[highsanta]

Because price of the items on new server will skyrocket and price of items on eu will go down.

 

[Kresh170]

I wonder why do you think thats a good decision. Server in America is undoubtedly the better choice if you want to have more people online, it will give a 'decent' ping to pretty much all regions that play OT (europe, brazil, na) so its playable to all instead of just one region

Its quite an easy answer to why there is a eu server. Eu players have the money to spend 9.5 euro every month for a longer period

 

[Zyzz immortal]

Without using vpn etc you pay 11 euro for FFXIV sub if you are from europe so comparing is questionable

 

[Bloodbringer]

Its quite an easy answer to why there is a eu server. Eu players have the money to spend 9.5 euro every month for a longer period

Thats a really bad argument, if Tibiantis main server was in America, Europeans would still play and pay and you'd also have people from north/south america playing and paying. Even if some of the Europeans decide not to play because of the slight increase in ping (which I doubt would happen as there is no server like Tibiantis around that they could play instead), that "loss" would be heavily outweighted by the gain from players from other regions that currently don't play due to very high ping.

Also I don't think a new NA server would be a solution, unless its a non-pvp server, which I am 100% sure would be a success in a server like Tibiantis, there's enough data around to prove that non-pvp servers thrive in any OT version, including back then in Tibia at 7.4, they were already quite popular.

 

[assassinho]

tibiantis was fun at the start. but now its at the endgame and thats not made for 7.4. Its kinda over

 

[Kresh170]

Thats a really bad argument, if Tibiantis main server was in America, Europeans would still play and pay and you'd also have people from north/south america playing and paying. Even if some of the Europeans decide not to play because of the slight increase in ping (which I doubt would happen as there is no server like Tibiantis around that they could play instead), that "loss" would be heavily outweighted by the gain from players from other regions that currently don't play due to very high ping.

Also I don't think a new NA server would be a solution, unless its a non-pvp server, which I am 100% sure would be a success in a server like Tibiantis, there's enough data around to prove that non-pvp servers thrive in any OT version, including back then in Tibia at 7.4, they were already quite popular.

There is a reason why the american server dont last so long. It is because the european players dont invest the same amount of time and energy on servers that has high ping.

 

[Bloodbringer]

tibiantis was fun at the start. but now its at the endgame and thats not made for 7.4. Its kinda over

They take too long to add more content thats basically it, Cipsoft's Tibia would have a major update with content every 6 months, in fact if you think about it the 7.4 version only lasted 6-8 months, it does not make sense to have a 7.4 without more content for so many years